i'm with judge dread: impossible to answer. if there was no religion since the beginning, everything everything everything we know would be different, we would have a different understanding of everything, and it's not comparable to the world we live in now. but if religion were to suddenly not exist anymore when i wake up tomorrow, there would be a period of great confusion before everyone would be forced to cooperate together... although.. it would be a matter of time before new ideas about life devellop and new groups form all over again.. so.. impossible to answer.
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What kind of World would it be with NO religion ?
by wobble inall comments welcome.
love.
wobble.
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Do You Personally Know Of Anyone That Committed Suicide?
by minimus inlately, i've come to find out that a more than a few people in the area had killed themselves.
most of the people i know of were in their early twenties or forties.
for those loved ones surviving them, it was mostly a shock!
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The pressure of being a perfect JW could do it to anyone!
either that or the sudden realisation of the falsehood of it all and not being able to get out of it without sacrificing everything
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Do You Personally Know Of Anyone That Committed Suicide?
by minimus inlately, i've come to find out that a more than a few people in the area had killed themselves.
most of the people i know of were in their early twenties or forties.
for those loved ones surviving them, it was mostly a shock!
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only one comes to mind. was an elder at the time, not from my congregation, didn't know him too well. sad because he left behind a whole family.
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"large but mainstream" brings what changes next?
by agent zero inin some other threads there has been talk of wether the organization will go large and mainstream or small and hard-core in the upcoming years.. in the past few years, the sunday public talk has been shortened, the bookstudy eliminated (at least as a seperate meeting night), #2 talks are down to a simple read-through, and a little longer ago pioneering hour requirements have been shortened.
personally i would take these as signs of them going more soft and keeping a larger membership.. if this is indeed the case, what would you suspect of being cut off or changed next?.
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in some other threads there has been talk of wether the organization will go large and mainstream or small and hard-core in the upcoming years.
in the past few years, the sunday public talk has been shortened, the bookstudy eliminated (at least as a seperate meeting night), #2 talks are down to a simple read-through, and a little longer ago pioneering hour requirements have been shortened. personally i would take these as signs of them going more soft and keeping a larger membership.
if this is indeed the case, what would you suspect of being cut off or changed next?
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Faders are indeed a large army...
by undercover in...and i think it's starting to show.. i started a thread the other day about being hounded after several years of having successfully(?
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i've been taken aback a bit the recent developments but i'm making a new strategy...one that depends more on sticking to my guns and laying the cards on the table.
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yeah me too mickey mouse, but it's still different somehow.
if i'd say "what an encouraging talk that was this morning", people could probably tell that it's out of character.
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Faders are indeed a large army...
by undercover in...and i think it's starting to show.. i started a thread the other day about being hounded after several years of having successfully(?
) faded.
i've been taken aback a bit the recent developments but i'm making a new strategy...one that depends more on sticking to my guns and laying the cards on the table.
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for the longest time, I thought I was the only one in my area that had come to learn of the things about the WTS that I had learned. I was all alone in a world surrounded by zealous JWs
i'm still pretty much at that stage. sometimes i'll suspect certain people but then they suddenly do something very j-dub and i change my mind about them.
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only if it has four doors and can be justified as a good "service car" bahahah
one local witness was trying to sell her car and sent an email to all her witness contacts describing the car for sale. first line: makes an excellent service car!
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local elder advertises this website!
by stillin init's true...from the platform during the service meeting he informed the congregation of how there apostate sites that you can find just by looking for jehovah's witnesses on your search bar.
well, that's exactly what led me here, and i haven't been dissappointed yet!
now, i wonder if he checks in here...hello, brother school overseer...i'm the brother in the 6th row on the right...my right, not yours.. i wonder how many just had to look as a result of his saying that..
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I am very tempted to open a googlemail account and send this site as a link to all the witnesses whose email addresses I have.
cantleave - me too, totally! if we would do that though, what would we write regarding the link to ensure that they will actually click on it and look at it for more then 5 seconds? and how do we make it that they will open the link if it's coming from a name they don't recognize? won't it just end up in junkmail?
anyway, let me know if you have a plan and are going to do it. i'll follow suit.
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The reporting of field service time
by lepermessiah inwere any of you really bothered/still bothered by the practice of field service reporting?.
there was an old post on here that got me thinking how the practice got started.. instead of simply being a tool to monitor the progress of the faith, or to see if the work was done "throughout the earth", it appears to me that it was just a tool used to keep the presses rolling and to see how much literature to produce - along with controlling the rank and file.
the average jw gives it no thought, its just another "blessing" from the organization when you hear the monthly reports, etc.. the organization is so statistics-driven that they make jesus out to be a ceo with people who need to meet their sales quotas.i'm sure he really wouldnt care if peter and andrew got 20 hours one month and john got 25. wait, maybe thats why john was "beloved" .
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one thing that always really bothered me in my most sincere days, was the way some would start counting time when they walked up to the first door. so in a car group of 4, two people would start counting at the first return visit and the other two ten minutes later at the next return visit, and i never agreed how 2 people get to have an extra ten or fifteen minutes just because their RV happens to be first on the path they're going, while in reality all 4 gave up the same portion of their day to be there.
i think most adopted the practice of starting counting time upon leaving the service group.
after a while i started counting from the moment i started getting dressed for service, reasoning that from that moment on my day became different because of going in service, so in a way, thats when i started "dedicating time" out of my day to the doing of "the work".
now i just randomly come up with an ok-ish sounding number every month.
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canada's "zone visit"
by agent zero in...the whole of canada hooked up by phone.. no big announcement that it was all a scam, no cancellation of the field service arrangement, just a praise of the new printing press and some regular drab.
what a waste of my saturday evening..
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that's really odd, here it was held at the assembly hall, and it was broadcast over the phone line direct from georgetown bethel. among the places they mentioned it was being broadcast were edmonton, calgary, saskatoon..